unicode character question

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Amoeba

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Friday, July 23rd 2004, 11:33pm

unicode character question

Way back in the day when I used windows, I used "alt" keys to display such letters as the "ñ". To produce the "ñ" in windows, i'd hold down the alt key followed by 0241. Is there a similar way to do this without having to load a different keyboad layout?

As of now, I have the KDE keyboard tool in my systray and switch between spanish and english which is sometimes annoying.

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cmbofh

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Saturday, July 24th 2004, 6:55am

Re: unicode character question

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Original von Amoeba

Way back in the day when I used windows, I used "alt" keys to display such letters as the "ñ". To produce the "ñ" in windows, i'd hold down the alt key followed by 0241. Is there a similar way to do this without having to load a different keyboad layout?

As of now, I have the KDE keyboard tool in my systray and switch between spanish and english which is sometimes annoying.

Thanks

I don't know if such a thing exists for X.

But you could also try a keyboard layout with "dead keys".
Then you could press (and release) the tilde (~) button (which wouldn't make a tilde appear in this mode), and if you then pressed an "n" you'd get "ñ". This works for accented chars only, not for all unicode chars, of course.

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Amoeba

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Saturday, July 24th 2004, 8:20pm

Do I make my locale "dead keys" as opposed to "en_US"? I'm not sure how to proceed. To be honest, I thought this would be WM configuration and not X but it makes sense that it's an X config...

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cmbofh

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Sunday, July 25th 2004, 12:59am

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Original von Amoeba

Do I make my locale "dead keys" as opposed to "en_US"? I'm not sure how to proceed. To be honest, I thought this would be WM configuration and not X but it makes sense that it's an X config...

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I just checked in my control center under "keyboard layout" and there is an entry "English (US) with dead keys" (us_intl). Is that the one you're talking about? Currently you have configured english and spanish, you could just add "English (US) with dead keys". If that layout works to your satisfaction you can remove the other two entries.

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m4ktub

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Sunday, July 25th 2004, 3:58am

In the remote case that "cmbofh" does not work...

As last resort you can always copy 'ñ' from some web page and the past it when needed and re-copy it after some real usefull clipboard work. :-)

You could use hotkeys to do the trick but I tested myself and it doesn't seam to work. It seams a bug but maybe it's just me because I don't know how to use hotkeys very well.

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cmbofh

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Sunday, July 25th 2004, 8:00am

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Original von m4ktub

As last resort you can always copy 'ñ' from some web page and the past it when needed and re-copy it after some real usefull clipboard work. :-)

Or use kcharselect, either the kicker applet or the standalone application. But I think those two solutions are even more of a hassle than switching between keyboard layouts. Depends on how esoteric and diverse the needed chars are, of course.

I do wonder if the ALT + numbercode method that Amoeba's orginal question was about exists under Linux, though.

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Amoeba

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Sunday, July 25th 2004, 8:10pm

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Original von cmbofh

I just checked in my control center under "keyboard layout" and there is an entry "English (US) with dead keys" (us_intl). Is that the one you're talking about? Currently you have configured english and spanish, you could just add "English (US) with dead keys". If that layout works to your satisfaction you can remove the other two entries.

Or use kcharselect, either the kicker applet or the standalone application. But I think those two solutions are even more of a hassle than switching between keyboard layouts. Depends on how esoteric and diverse the needed chars are, of course.

Well, I tried "English (US) with dead keys" (us_intl)" and hitting the tilde before the letter n outputs nothing. Hitting the tilde twice produced the tilde.

To be honest, the keyboard tool in my systray is easier to use than charselect.

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Original von m4ktub

As last resort you can always copy 'ñ' from some web page and the past it when needed and re-copy it after some real usefull clipboard work. :-)

You could use hotkeys to do the trick but I tested myself and it doesn't seam to work. It seams a bug but maybe it's just me because I don't know how to use hotkeys very well.

Kcharselect would do the same thing...

I have tried several methods and using the keyboard tool seems to optimize my keystrokes. It's just I type more in english than I do in spanish and when I have the spanish keyboard active, remaps every non-letter key forcing me to switch back if i want to use the hyphen, underscore, etc.. It's annoying but it nothing I can't deal with.

/me wishes there was an ALT + key stroke method....