You are not logged in.

1

Friday, May 5th 2006, 5:18pm

menu and title together in one bar

Everyone knows: there is a titlebar and there is a menubar.
On some platforms in this on other in that order.
_
Typically there is a lot unused space in the right of the menubar and in the right of the titlebar.
Valuable space.
_
A mock-up of my very old wish:

http://borumat.de/kubuntu-und-kde-tipps#…in-einer-leiste
_
Menu and title are displayed togehter in one single bar. The menu on the left, the title on the right side.
As a special case, I snipped the buttons for minimizing, maximizing and closing a window, because I usually perform these tasks by shortcuts. But this is a detail of no matter.
As soon as the window is to small, that menu and title will not fit next together, the both parts divide into two bars. Into the form we already know.
_
What do you think of my wish as a new option in the configuration of windows? Useful, not useful?
Until now I did not managed it to post into the kde-mailinglist, thought I'm registered.
Posting into the mailinglist via gmane.org does not work neither.
I'm not a friend of adding an enty into the bug tracking system, without knowing what other think of it.
Kubuntu 5.10 | KDE 3.5.2
Tipps in deutscher Sprache zu: Kubuntu | Firefox | Thunderbird

2

Saturday, May 6th 2006, 12:16am

re:

I have my doubts, if the title is big (like browsers that change the window's title to the title of the html) and there are a lot of menus (Again, like browsers) that simply won't look right.

But well they can always add it . But not for default

3

Saturday, May 6th 2006, 11:48am

RE: menu and title together in one bar

Apple did it with its itunes software for alternative operating systems. Looks good.

However, one could also ask what the purpose of the bar at the bottom is and how it can be made differently. the button bar seems to be a leftover from the Dos-Era.

4

Saturday, May 6th 2006, 12:54pm

RE: re:

Quoted


I have my doubts, if the title is big (like browsers that change the window's title to the title of the html) and there are a lot of menus (Again, like browsers) that simply won't look right.

I should have mentioned, that I thought off applications which use tabs. The title (in browsers) or the path of a file (in an editor) will be displayed inside the tab. My motive is: I don't like the redundance of information - in the titlebar and in the tab.

Quoted

But well they can always add it . But not for default

What would be another attractive solution for me?
When I could force, that in specific applications (that with tabs/ subwindows) in the titlebar it will always be shown just the application name, nothing else.
Do you know how that could be realized with KDE?
Kubuntu 5.10 | KDE 3.5.2
Tipps in deutscher Sprache zu: Kubuntu | Firefox | Thunderbird

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "ibu" (May 6th 2006, 12:55pm)


alecs1

Trainee

Posts: 53

Location: Romania

  • Send private message

5

Saturday, May 6th 2006, 4:18pm

Yep, this is a thing to be thought of, but I have some experience which showed me that this kind of stuff can make it harder to control the things on the desktop. I tried all the small window decorations to save space, but I got frustrated when I had to concentrate too much to understand wich window is which, so I came back to plastic.
I even use no border windows, but not when there are more than two windows on my screen. So the window border anf title bar must remain in enough contrast with the content of the window; for me they only have the purpose of window delimiters, cause I can always assing whichever shortcut to hide, restore etc a window.
Enjoy

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "alecs1" (May 6th 2006, 4:19pm)


anda_skoa

Professional

Posts: 1,273

Location: Graz, Austria

Occupation: Software Developer

  • Send private message

6

Saturday, May 6th 2006, 5:56pm

Something like this will require support in the toolkits, since the application has to support "out-sourcing" its menu to the windowmanager which draws the decoration.

Or it would probably only work for KDE applications, similar to the "Mac-like menubar" option.

Cheers,
_
Qt/KDE Developer
Debian User