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Hi, I'm using the XFCE desktop (for running high-end graphics programs) on my computer, but I just can't do without kicker! I added it to my startup folder, and it works pretty well, except for a few things:
* can't "customise panel"; window never comes up
* can't use it to log out
* on startup, xmms (and subsequent system tray icon) load first, making said system tray icon have its own window

Is there any way around this? For the first one, I would think the kde libraries required to run kicker would be enough to run config. For the second, xfce and kde are both aligned with freedesktop.org standards....

I solved the third problem and can ask a more direct question (hopefully) to work on the first two:

What exactly does kicker require to run? It looks like it requires kdeinit, but other than that, I can't tell.