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Friday, November 26th 2004, 7:57pm

kMail and kAddress Book - no connection?

Both KMail and KAddress Book are impressive. I've recently switched from Outlook\Windows as I could no longer be assured that my systems are secure and stable.

I find, however, some difficulty between KMail and KAddress book. It seems to me that these applications should be integrated. When I create a new email and begin to type the name in the TO field, (as an outlook user) I was expecting the closest address book entry to appear. When I checked the address list in KMail, I was surprised to find that none of my 400+ addresses in the KAddress Book were there.

I searched and read a lot of documentation, but can't discover if these applications can talk to each other. It would be a shame if they cannot.

Maybe I just missed something basic. Can anyone help me out?

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Saturday, November 27th 2004, 6:33am

Re: kMail and kAddress Book - no connection?

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Original von k1mgy

When I create a new email and begin to type the name in the TO field, (as an outlook user) I was expecting the closest address book entry to appear. When I checked the address list in KMail, I was surprised to find that none of my 400+ addresses in the KAddress Book were there.
I can only say that it works here. When I start to type a first name then the matching entries from the addressbook are shown. It also shows people I never sent an email to from this computer so the names cannot come from a list of "recent addresses" KMail has stored away somewhere.

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Saturday, November 27th 2004, 1:29pm

What works is when the Kmail address book is loaded with addresses. However, there is no connection between Kmail's address book and the "Address Book" that is a seperate application. If you launch "Tools.. Address Book" (loads as "Address Manager", and then titles itself as "Address Book Browser - KAddress"), you'll see what I mean.

How do you get the Address Book to link to KMail? I've already gone throuigh a difficult exercise getting Outlook addresses into the Address Book (KAddress). It would be a shame to have to enter them again, plus maintain the unecessary redundancy.

I'm probably bitching and someone might come along and tell me to do it myself, or bark that it's free. My concern, however, is not just for me - but for KDE to become a serious and sustainable alternative to the other system. Something was missed here. Either it wasn't designed to integrate intentionally; it was overlooked; or the documentation needs to be updated. If there's a way to do what I suggest, I can't find it.

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Saturday, November 27th 2004, 2:30pm

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Original von k1mgy

What works is when the Kmail address book is loaded with addresses. However, there is no connection between Kmail's address book and the "Address Book" that is a seperate application. If you launch "Tools.. Address Book" (loads as "Address Manager", and then titles itself as "Address Book Browser - KAddress"), you'll see what I mean.
I'm not sure I understand. What do you mean by KMail address book? It doesn't have a separate one here. When I click the address book entry in the Tools menu it starts the KDE address book. I haven't done anything to configure it that way.

What version of KDE, KAddressbook and KMail are you using, BTW, and what distro?


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Original von k1mgy

How do you get the Address Book to link to KMail? I've already gone throuigh a difficult exercise getting Outlook addresses into the Address Book (KAddress). It would be a shame to have to enter them again, plus maintain the unecessary redundancy.
I don't think you'll have to. In fact, integration between the different parts is one of the strong points of KDE. KMail uses the data from KAddressbook, Kopete (the instant messenger) too. I think you're seeing some kind of misconfiguration.

In KDE 3.3, when I click the button labelled "..." right of the To: field then I get a popup with a tree view on the left side. The two top level elements are "Recent addresses" and "Other addresses". The latter one contains the email addresses from the entries in my KDE Addressbook... What do you get when you press that button?


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Original von k1mgy

I'm probably bitching and someone might come along and tell me to do it myself, or bark that it's free. My concern, however, is not just for me - but for KDE to become a serious and sustainable alternative to the other system. Something was missed here. Either it wasn't designed to integrate intentionally; it was overlooked; or the documentation needs to be updated. If there's a way to do what I suggest, I can't find it.
As I said, this normally works out-of-the-box. I would completely agree with you if the integration weren't already there...

One thing you could check is if the address book instance started from the Tools menu in KMail loads/saves its data from/to a different file than when starting it from the command line or the K Menu. The standard location is ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf

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Saturday, November 27th 2004, 4:19pm

I'll crawl off now, a little sorry for my spewing.

You were absolutely correct. I'm not certain why - perhaps as a result of other stuff I'm doing trying to get Japanese language (IME) support to work - the file originally saved and the one now in use were in different locations. To make certain things are solid, I re-imported the original windows/outlook data.

It is integrated, and it's sweet.

-m-

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Saturday, November 27th 2004, 4:48pm

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It is integrated, and it's sweet.
Good to hear it works now :)

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Monday, October 3rd 2005, 7:21pm

RE: kMail and kAddress Book - no connection?

I like KMail very much and want to use it with Linspire (Debian-based distro). Problem is that the address list icon is grayed out and there is no functionality or connection to import an address list. Can someone help with this? Thanks.
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Thursday, November 10th 2005, 4:23am

geoffcaplan, I hope you got your problem solved, I'm afraid I can't help.

However, back at the original topic:

The IS a problem with kaddressbook and the addresses which appear using the 'select' button in composer. I cannot get the address list in my address book to open using the 'select addressbook' dialog box in kmail 1.8.2; it only shows recent addresses from the list in kderc. My addressbook is the default 'resource-name' but 'resource-name' shows up blank using the select addressbook dialog box.

Is this a bug or is it only me having this problem?

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Tuesday, March 14th 2006, 3:12pm

same here

i have the same problem. I find it very annoying.
Otherwise i really like kmail. Hope this gets fixed soon and that kubuntu updates it in their repos...

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Tuesday, March 14th 2006, 4:07pm

RE: same here

I spotted the bug as well and I've fixed it for KDE 3.5.2. This release will be available around 24 March 2006.
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Tuesday, October 23rd 2007, 1:12am

RE: kMail and kAddress Book - no connection?

When I had my brief experience with Linspire, I noted that the files weren't in all the standard places. That means, for example that in most distros I could find the address file in /home/myname/.kde/share/apps/kabc as std.vcf. Linspire, if I remember correctly moved it to a different folder. Not nice.

Make sure you have kde-pim (Kontact) installed, and not just kmail as well.