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Tuesday, January 27th 2004, 8:08pm

What do you want in the new KDE-Forum???

It's time to change and it's time to get ready for 2004 the year of the Linux Desktop! Secondly we are only days away from KDE 3.2 final - another change for the KDE community and a step forward for Linux on Desktop.

:!: :!: :!: KDE-Forum.org (phpBB 2.0.x based) v2 :!: :!: :!:

I want to know now what you think about the ideas and I want your wishes for the new KDE Forum!

Main points are forum structure, new portal, FAQ, Howto/Tutorial section. For main changes of the board I want to wait for phpBB 2.2 but sometimtes I will change the board too before 2.2 release.

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:arrow: Soon there will be a survey for the users!!!

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:arrow: Changes list

* Getting for every board & every user group a special moderator !!!
* Ceate KDE-based forum theme
* Ceate new Portal:
- News from KDE/dot.kde.org/Forum
- left sidebar with news from dot.kde.org; KDE-Look.org and KDE-Apps.org (RDF)
- more about the rest of the community/KDE/Linux
* FAQ section:
- users can ask (and answer)
* Howto/Tutorial section (maybe wiki):
- all create/edit/change/comment (wiki)
- would need a moderation team (looking that no content will be destroyed/changed bad/lock sometimes content)
* Forum structure

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:!: Post your ideas and wishes here :!:

leftbas

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Tuesday, January 27th 2004, 9:24pm

Great work!

I'm so glad to see the KDE community hard at work promoting KDE. While I don't have any specific requests, all the listed ideas sound excellent. I would like to see all the web sites related to KDE adopt a common appearance. A uniform look would be more attractive and might lend a stronger aire of credibility to the whole project. As always, all the improvements are steps in the right direction, and I'll be a KDE loyalist to the end!

Keep up the great work!

(BTW, the new Apps web site is a LOT better than the now defunct KDE.com site.)
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Tuesday, January 27th 2004, 9:46pm

Great work! Keep on going!

Hi,
first of all I have to say that I don't know anything of those PHP based boards although I'm very familiar with PHP itself.
So I don't know anything about the new features of phpBB 2.2.

All those topics sound very good for me but you have to consider, that there are thousand other community pages/boards with exactly the same information. I don't see any advantages in copying one information over thousand different boards. Everybody knows about dot.kde.org, so why reimplement it here.
On the other hand I think it is a good idea to group all relevant KDE topics together on one (this) site. But you the community has to decide, if the idea of grouping all the information is good or not. I can only speak for me and would say: Do it!
And last, you have to take care about the maintainance of those new features so you need some more admins, don't you?
Tom
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Tuesday, January 27th 2004, 9:50pm

Start into KDE world

I dont want to "copy" dot.kde.org - I want to make kde-forum.org more the gate to the KDE world:
When you look at the v2 Portal you will see all new news of KDE (dot, looks, apps)!

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Tuesday, January 27th 2004, 10:09pm

I think that the stucture will be so each part of koffice (kugar,kexi,kword etc) has their own sektion.

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Tuesday, January 27th 2004, 10:34pm

I think the most important thing, strangely, is to go ahead with your proposed redesign, and make the forum look like it is a part of the KDE web sites network. Of course you will want to check with the KDE web masters about making it clear that it is independent if they want that...

Beyond that...

I suppose the niche kde-forum fills is a place for KDE users to support each other outside of their distribution's support places, to discuss and share ideas about KDE, and to get the people who won't be using bugs.kde.org and other services a lot. So maybe make the portal a portal to the non-developer aspects of KDE by adding links to guides on bugs.kde.org, non-developer mailing lists and other areas where people can become part of the KDE community without being intimidated by the main KDE web sites.
NewToLinux - GNU/Linux made easy (multilingual - English, Francais, Espanol, Deutsch)

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Wednesday, January 28th 2004, 9:59am

Quoted

Original von Anonymous

I think that the stucture will be so each part of koffice (kugar,kexi,kword etc) has their own sektion.
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i dont think this will be very easy to manage or maintain, as i dont see that there is enough demand for each Koffice section to have its own sub forum.

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Wednesday, January 28th 2004, 12:20pm

no package structure

First I want to say that I dont want the package structure:
KOffice - sub board: kword, ...
Internet & Network: sub - baords: konqueror, kopete, ...
...

Cause this will make the forum very unstructurated ;) you will have to click here and there to find the right application and then often apps maintainer will ask me if that cannot have a sub-board here but I think you wont like a misc application board with over 100 sub-boards of apps, or?

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Wednesday, January 28th 2004, 4:25pm

Check out http://www.kde.nl/doc/ that's our dutch KDE website.

I'm particulary interested in Howto/Tutorial section. I think Wiki is a bit of a mess. Look at the KDE-Wiki website for example. That Howto/Tutorial section should invite others to write and to review your work. So I should feel I can and maybe even should contribute to the repository of KDE tutorials on www.kde-forum.org.

Anyway .. I plan to translate those docs if desired if somebody is willing to proffread them as well.

Ciao

Fab

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Wednesday, January 28th 2004, 9:00pm

I'm psyched about the release of 3.2 and the overheaul of this forum.

Some random thoughts:
1) I think there needs to be an installation section where it's broken down by different distro's. I find that many questions when answered for one distro don't apply to the other.
2) I would like to see a "Meltdown" or "Extreme Crisis" section where users whose system crashes or find KDE is just not working anymore can post urgent requests for help. This would also be a place where people who have emergencies would know to check right away. (I know the desire for such a forum gives me away as a newbie, but what can I do?)


That's it for now.

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Thursday, January 29th 2004, 10:15pm

survey

It looks like I should create a survey.

After this survey I and you all will see what is here in the community and after this points and wishes and votes I will work then.

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Friday, January 30th 2004, 7:28am

Re: Start into KDE world

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Original von zenok

I dont want to "copy" dot.kde.org - I want to make kde-forum.org more the gate to the KDE world:
When you look at the v2 Portal you will see all new news of KDE (dot, looks, apps)!

Please don't forget the KDE Wiki at http://kde.ground.cz/tiki-index.php

I found myself distilling answers (e.g. my own) from kde-forum.org (and the mailinglists) into entries at the Wiki several times already. IMHO that's a very natural partnership: kde-forum for discussion and working towards an answer, and the Wiki for keeping the knowledge and refining it (spellchecking, updates, ...).

BTW: The Wiki has been set up explicitely in a way that it doesn't compete with either the kde-forum or the dot: The only forum there is about the Wiki itself.

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Sunday, February 1st 2004, 11:13pm

I think that's a very good system. Kind of a like an archive of help info.
"Chopsticks require a person to use 64 muscles and 30 articulate movements simultaneously, which also acts in developing brain potential."

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Friday, February 20th 2004, 10:36pm

status

I want to have a look at the community and the changes - KDE 3.2 changes but changes not everything... this points are in mind and phpBB 2.2 too.

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Friday, March 5th 2004, 4:29pm

Forum Comments

First. This board presently has WAY too many forums, many of which only get one or two posts per week, sometimes only one or two per month. The 'Debian' forum hasen't been used for nearly three months, Mandrake, Gentoo & Distributions haven't had a post for weeks. The Dutch language forum has only had two topics in a year.
This causes problems for both the browser just looking for information and for the potential user trying to decide which forum to post in. Suppose I am having problems with Konqueror web browsing on Mandrake system...I have too many choices: Mandrake, Internet & Network, or perhaps Admin & Installation. Or maybe my problem is not really distribution specific & has already been addressed by a post on the Slackware board. How would I find it, I wouldn't even think to browse there & 'search' won't find it unless the post subject is quite specific.
So, suggestion #1: You should consolidate the forums into as few as possible, perhaps as few as 'Discussion','Tech Help' and 'Feedback to KDE'.

The 'Feedback' forum would be my second suggestion. There already is a 'Feedback' forum, but it appears to be underutilized, perhaps it is competing with the 'Development' forum which is clearly getting some topics which are more of a 'Tech Help' nature. Perhpas it needs a link of it's own on the KDE homepage. With KDE3.2 just released I would have expected there would be lots of feedback coming in but there almost none.
In any case, this forum should be made more visible (from the KDE home page) and set up as a major means of providing feedback to the KDE development team, with a liason person to see that feedback gets directed to the appropriate person. Actual action items may need to be forwarded on though the bug system. note the one post (by Lucher) on this forum where he says he is so dissatisfied with the bug system he will not it, this forum should be a means of getting feedback from people such as this. For a nOOb or a casual user wishing to bring up a minor bug (which maybe is not a bug) or wish list item, this forum is where he(she) would going to go first via the link on the KDE homepage.
There is some further discussion on this at KDE.dot:http://dot.kde.org/1077164294/

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Sunday, March 7th 2004, 12:23am

Yea, this forum needs more exposure to the KDE community. Like how KDE-Look is where everyone goes for desktop customizations, this place should be where people go for KDE help.
"Chopsticks require a person to use 64 muscles and 30 articulate movements simultaneously, which also acts in developing brain potential."

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Sunday, March 7th 2004, 2:25pm

you all right

Yes you all right but what should I change???

I want to do this now and not in the future KDE Forum... I thought about some ideas ... maybe I post them here but please post your own ideas for a new structure!

The Distro and Language Boards will be killed soon!!!

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Sunday, March 7th 2004, 9:36pm

Ok. We could request that when people post about problems, they describe what distro they're on. Maybe have them tell it in their signature? And if they prefer to use a different language, have them put like [Deutsch] on the thread's title. And we should organize an advertising and PR campaign to increase awareness of kde-forum.org.
"Chopsticks require a person to use 64 muscles and 30 articulate movements simultaneously, which also acts in developing brain potential."

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Monday, March 8th 2004, 1:56pm

the point - diffrent in next board - but...

Yes it is the point and what I want is the united Linux so such fuck*ng Distro developers should start developing Linux as ONE thing ... :wink:
... such a thing I wanted ever but will never come?

If the problems are special the users will write the special environment Distro, Kernel, ... hopefully in the thread - written down as rule we should create board rules soon!

The most people will know a bit english and if there are problems they should maybe write with [language] in topic.

But two things still there:
1.) One Distro board in the new structure (to save the old ones and maybe for new discussion???
2.) Language board?

For 1.) I would say maybe but for 2.) I would erease all posts - not much and not interesting for the rest of us!

... forum structure ideas are still welcome...

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Monday, March 8th 2004, 2:47pm

my first idea

Here you find my first idea:
Discuss there please!


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