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Tuesday, June 17th 2003, 11:40am

Why do you think Gentoo is the future of Linux Distros?

Hello Gents,

Just wanted to start a heated debate.:shock: I doubt that will happen though. I don't think I'd have used linux for long if I didn't find Gentoo. Or maybe I would.:? Anyway, your views on why you chose Gentoo and why think it's arguably the most interesting distro out their. Also what you think Gentoo can learn from other distros or Unices.

Over to you.

Mystilleef
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Tuesday, June 17th 2003, 11:49am

I have no comment on this Distro as I have never tried it before, although allot of people rave about it. I must admit I am happy with the distro I use now, after trying a few out before sticking to the current one. I would say there is a market for every Distro as each one of them offers something good, and it all depends on what you want. :wink:
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Tuesday, June 17th 2003, 12:31pm

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Original von tuxnet

I have no comment on this Distro as I have never tried it before, although allot of people rave about it. I must admit I am happy with the distro I use now, after trying a few out before sticking to the current one. I would say there is a market for every Distro as each one of them offers something good, and it all depends on what you want. :wink:


No...no...no, tuxnet, you should give it a try first then comment. ;) I've tried Suse, it's...o...k...ay. But I must say you're missing a lot by not at least trying Gentoo. If you try Gentoo and go back to suse, I owe your a beer. No, I'm serious.

Mystilleef
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Tuesday, June 17th 2003, 2:11pm

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Original von Mystilleef

No...no...no, tuxnet, you should give it a try first then comment. ;) I've tried Suse, it's...o...k...ay. But I must say you're missing a lot by not at least trying Gentoo. If you try Gentoo and go back to suse, I owe your a beer. No, I'm serious.Mystilleef


I agree with Mystilleef on this. Besides, what's better motivation than free beer. I use SuSE at home, which was the first distro I have used. I love it because it works well and they make most things easy for newbies. On Mystilleef's earlier post: So what's your Distro and Why?, I installed Gentoo on a spare machine I have at work. I was immediately impressed with the documentation and the install went very smooth. I learned a lot and I have a lot more to learn about the kernel, but even with a few items that I need to fix Gentoo runs great.

Some folks are running Gentoo with dial-up connections, but I think if you do you will be downloading forever. I have a dial-up at home too, so I do not plan to switch to Gentoo at home right now. Another factor is that I share my machine with my wife and she will just see the configuration process as a weakness and not as a strength.

Gentoo is lean and clean. You can also forget about all those lousy dependency issues when installing rpm's. Gentoo's portage and emerge process keeps your machine up-to-date and it is vitually a one step process. Go to Gentoo look at the documentation and check out their forum. I think you'll agree it's worth a try. :D

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Tuesday, June 17th 2003, 2:39pm

Ok I tell you all what, as I have 2 systems, and both are running Suse at the moment, I will give you all the benefit of the doubt, and I will Install Gentoo this weekend on my spare system. Following the instructions from: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-install.xml My spare system is an AMD 2.5 GHz, with 1 GB RAM, 128 MB NVIDIA, and about 100 GB DISK, so the installation should not take long. I will also start installing it from Stage 1 for total control over the optimisation settings and optional build-time functionality.
After a successful installation I will report back, on time of installation, flexibility in adding and removing applications, automatic updates & compatibility of third party applications installation. Oh yeah and most important of all I would like to see if all my Games work too! (Sorry I am a grown man married with 2 kids, but a geek and I love games.)

:D
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Tuesday, June 17th 2003, 3:05pm

Yes!!!!!!

Hey tuxy,

If you have any problems, do not hesitate to ask.:D
Oh yeah, and join the forums. That's like the initiation rite. :lol:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=3614&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

I counted more than ten people alone, in the above linked thread, who have migrated from SUSE to Gentoo. :shock:

But I'll be really looking forward to your review.

Mystilleef
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Wednesday, June 18th 2003, 9:42am

Just as a Update, I've downloaded the ISO image last night, so hopefully I will have a go at it this weekend "if I have time". :roll:
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Wednesday, June 18th 2003, 5:57pm

Nice

Great! :)
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Thursday, June 19th 2003, 6:02am

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Original von tuxnet

My spare system is an AMD 2.5 GHz, with 1 GB RAM, 128 MB NVIDIA, and about 100 GB DISK, so the installation should not take long.


Not bad for a *spare* system, BTW ;-)

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Thursday, June 19th 2003, 9:28am

Well, it's not really spare I use that system to run my own personal ftp server as I required it for work some times, I use it for testing new distros and other things in general, so if I break it it does not matter because I still got my main system and my main system only goes on when I need it, to play games, email, internet, chat, etc
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Tuesday, July 29th 2003, 1:26am

What's the verdict, tuxnet?

It's been awhile since you were going to install Gentoo. What happened?

Erik
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Tuesday, July 29th 2003, 8:28pm

Lol, I have to laugh on your comment "What's the verdict, tuxnet?" Well indeed it has been a while, and I must admit I would recommend gentoo to anyone with fast connection and lots of spare time, I can actually say that it took longer to get it up and running than I thought but once it was up and running it was good. I plaid with gentoo for about 3, 4 days then I trashed it and Installed Suse 8.2 on it again. One thing I can tell you after installing gentoo on the second system and then Suse 8.2 after I was actually impressed by the speed I could get Suse up and running ready to be used. (BIG BONUS). But I would not change my main system at the moment for nether gentoo nor Suse 8.2 as I am actually very happy running Suse 8.1 a'la tuxnet.

The Verdict is as follow "gentoo" is a great Linux OS and there are many advantages I definitely recommend everyone trying it out before choosing a specific Distro. (And I hope that you have a very fast connection to do so.)

So ebrostig I like it, and I will play more with it again in the near future but I am not ready to upgrade or i.e. sidegrade my existing main system.

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Tuesday, July 29th 2003, 8:29pm

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Lol, I have to laugh on your comment "What's the verdict, tuxnet?" Well indeed it has been a while, and I must admit I would recommend gentoo to anyone with fast connection and lots of spare time, I can actually say that it took longer to get it up and running than I thought but once it was up and running it was good. I plaid with gentoo for about 3, 4 days then I trashed it and Installed Suse 8.2 on it again. One thing I can tell you after installing gentoo on the second system and then Suse 8.2 after I was actually impressed by the speed I could get Suse up and running ready to be used. (BIG BONUS). But I would not change my main system at the moment for nether gentoo nor Suse 8.2 as I am actually very happy running Suse 8.1 a'la tuxnet.

The Verdict is as follow "gentoo" is a great Linux OS and there are many advantages I definitely recommend everyone trying it out before choosing a specific Distro. (And I hope that you have a very fast connection to do so.)

So ebrostig I like it, and I will play more with it again in the near future but I am not ready to upgrade or i.e. sidegrade my existing main system.


This was me but I had forgoten to login :oops:
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Wednesday, July 30th 2003, 2:42am

Lol, I understood :)

I have to reveal myself too then I guess :)
I'm a moderator over at forums.gentoo.org and I just wanted to see what your experience was like :twisted:

Erik
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Wednesday, July 30th 2003, 7:31am

Well summarising the lot, it was a good and interesting experience. I certainly would like to play with it again.
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Wednesday, July 30th 2003, 12:49pm

Hmmm...I guess I owe you a beer then. :(
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Wednesday, September 3rd 2003, 5:24am

my name is jrz and i'm a gentoo addict.

i like gentoo because of the configurability and how lean (or feature-rich) it can be.

i like the utterly painless package management, just emerge <pkg> and it'll get all the deps and handle all the configuration for you! <3 much love.

surely some people doubt the benefit of compiling everything at install time (you can use binaries folks! read the fscking manual!!!!1) but to me there's nothing better than linux packages baked fresh daily.

i started out with slackware and moved onto redhat/mandrake and now i'm gentoo4life.

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Friday, October 31st 2003, 6:43pm

not many gentoo users here :s
anywhay, I have to thank Mystilleef for getting me into Gentoo, it's the best thing that ever happened to me, I've found it so efficient I have permantently moved from windows to gentoo and indeed, installation of kde, fluxbox or any other heavy-duty- program/gui is childsplay.
The only thing I suck at are kernels, but that'll improve in time :p

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Tuesday, January 20th 2004, 7:48pm

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not many gentoo users here :s


Well, now it's one more :wink:

I've started with SuSE 8.0 back in 04/2002. It's a great distro for newbies, stable and very easy to configure. But my computer is my toy as well; I'm always looking for fresh software. This makes Gentoo a nearly optimal solution. I can grab source code when it's still warm and compile it right away. Yet Gentoo's ebuild system takes the burden of resolving all those dependencies, avoiding b0rken compiler settings and so on.

Gentoo combines the benefits of automated package management and bleeding edge source code.

I just love it :D
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Wednesday, February 11th 2004, 5:17pm

And another one more.

I use Gentoo quite a while. Before I already tested a lot of other distros, beginning with suse (4.3 or so), RedHat and Mandrake. A while ago my favourite distro was Caldera OpenLinux.

But now I only use Gentoo.

The only disadvantage of this distro is, that it takes soooooooooo long to compile all the packages you want. Even on a 3.06 GHz P4 system it takes a while.
But there are more advantages than you have by using any other distro.

Gentoo you can customize like no other distro. It is easy to install only these packages you really want and need.
It is really easy to update your system, or to install new packages. It always resolves the dependencies.

Finally you have a personalized Linux with the optimizations you defined. It is always optimized to the system and it is really fast.
Cheers,
Tom