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Wednesday, July 9th 2003, 5:44am

Search bar in Konqueror (KHTML)

Is there anyway to get a search toolbar (similar to the Opera search bar or the Google toolbar) in Konqueror? I know I can type gg:keywords, but having a built toolbar saves a lot of time, especially because it stays there even after I go to a URL?

(Also, is this the right place to post? Is this an official KDE forum? is there a better forum for me to post in, or a specific Konqueror forum? Should I use the mailing lists?)

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Wednesday, July 9th 2003, 2:46pm

Re: Search bar in Konqueror (KHTML)

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Original von Franklin_DeMatto

Is there anyway to get a search toolbar (similar to the Opera search bar or the Google toolbar) in Konqueror? I know I can type gg:keywords, but having a built toolbar saves a lot of time, especially because it stays there even after I go to a URL?


Hmm, doesn't the URL input of Konqueor stay as well?

I find the internet short cuts of KDE way more flexible. You can do, for example, ALT-F2 gg:word
or define your own shortcuts.

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Wednesday, July 9th 2003, 3:36pm

>Hmm, doesn't the URL input of Konqueor stay as well?
Try typing in gg:process accounting. Click on the first link, read the article, click to the next page, etc. Now you want more information. Or perhaps you want to refine it to "Linux process accounting". Or perhpaps you'd like ot try a different search engine. In Opera, you can just click back on the search bar and make your changes. In Konq, it will be lost. You will have to retype it. (No major loss, but it gets inconvienent when you have a lot to do.)

>I find the internet short cuts of KDE way more flexible. You can do, for >example, ALT-F2 gg:word or define your own shortcuts.

I'm glad you do. But the software should conform to the user's preferences, not determine them.

(Oh well, guess I'll stick with Opera for now. Maybe I'll have time to hack it myself at one point.)

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Wednesday, July 9th 2003, 7:51pm

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Original von Franklin_DeMatto

>Hmm, doesn't the URL input of Konqueor stay as well?
Try typing in gg:process accounting. Click on the first link, read the article, click to the next page, etc. Now you want more information. Or perhaps you want to refine it to "Linux process accounting". Or perhpaps you'd like ot try a different search engine. In Opera, you can just click back on the search bar and make your changes. In Konq, it will be lost. You will have to retype it. (No major loss, but it gets inconvienent when you have a lot to do.)


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>I find the internet short cuts of KDE way more flexible. You can do, for >example, ALT-F2 gg:word or define your own shortcuts.

I'm glad you do. But the software should conform to the user's preferences, not determine them.


Exactly. The user can decide which search engine to use by simply using a different shortcut.

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(Oh well, guess I'll stick with Opera for now. Maybe I'll have time to hack it myself at one point.)


There might be a sidebar plugin doing that.
Not sure where to lok for sidebar plugins though. kdeaddon perhaps.

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Saturday, July 12th 2003, 1:11am

MM? - User asks if there is a specific functionality, notes that she/he could use an existing alternative approach but explains that this is doesn't really meet requirements and has the functionality he has rejected explained to him. And we wonder why the business world seems to have a loe opinion of the development community.

On another point, I wnat to type in some words (doesn't matter what - say "george bush iq") into the location bar and if it is not a good URL automatically go to say google and conduct a search.

At present if I do this I get :
http://navigation.realnames.com/resolver.dll?action=navigation&realname=gg&charset=iso-8859-1&providerid=180&fallbackuri=http%3A//www.google.com/search%3Fq%3Dgg

-- can I configure Konqueror to simply do the search on say Google?

-- PLease excuse the rave above, its not something I'm likely to get into a heated debate about in this forum (I think it's inappropiate here anyway).

BTW Love the browser, search aside.

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Tuesday, July 15th 2003, 10:12am

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Original von beach_defender

MM? - User asks if there is a specific functionality, notes that she/he could use an existing alternative approach but explains that this is doesn't really meet requirements and has the functionality he has rejected explained to him. And we wonder why the business world seems to have a loe opinion of the development community.


I saw not much difference in the suggested feature and the already available functionality.
If someone else thinks there is, he/she should file a feature request on bugs.kde.org

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On another point, I wnat to type in some words (doesn't matter what - say "george bush iq") into the location bar and if it is not a good URL automatically go to say google and conduct a search.

At present if I do this I get :
http://navigation.realnames.com/resolver.dll?action=navigation&realname=gg&charset=iso-8859-1&providerid=180&fallbackuri=http%3A//www.google.com/search%3Fq%3Dgg

-- can I configure Konqueror to simply do the search on say Google?


Hmm, it works that way here (I mean performing a google search on non-URLs) . What version of Konqueror are you using?
I have Konqueror from KDE 3.1.2 / Debian Woody

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Wednesday, July 23rd 2003, 1:53am

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Original von Franklin_DeMatto

>Hmm, doesn't the URL input of Konqueor stay as well?
Try typing in gg:process accounting. Click on the first link, read the article, click to the next page, etc. Now you want more information. Or perhaps you want to refine it to "Linux process accounting". Or perhpaps you'd like ot try a different search engine. In Opera, you can just click back on the search bar and make your changes. In Konq, it will be lost. You will have to retype it. (No major loss, but it gets inconvienent when you have a lot to do.)

Just use the middle mousbutton to open the search results.
Konqueror will open them in a new tab, leaving the google-window untouched.

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Wednesday, July 23rd 2003, 1:58am

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Original von Franklin_DeMatto


I'm glad you do. But the software should conform to the user's preferences, not determine them.

Yep, but that's not how software works, every software product determines your preferences, it does not complie in any way to your needs (unless you have written it yourself).
For example, using gg:query in Opera does not work, so the user has to conform with Opera's solution, just like the Konqueror user has to conform with Konqueror's solution.

Main difference between Konqueror and Opera is that Konqueror is open source, so you can do something about it :)

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