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Tuesday, August 24th 2004, 1:41am

Kuickshow : Why no support of XCF; SVG; and Animated GIF ?

hi,

Well, i don't understand why all of imageviewers* which i've used don't handle the native gimp file format.
It would however be hyper useful, personaly i have a lot of .xcf's - i keep raw works for further re-editing - and it becomes really hard to navigate between all without preview.

It is strange as much than GIMP is the only complete 2D Drawing/PhotoEditor software in the OSS world.


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Wednesday, August 25th 2004, 2:02am

I suppose it's a devolping issue. I mean, handling .xcf's would need one of two things:
  1. Or the KDE team reimplemented all of the xcf's functionality
  2. Or they used some GIMP library to do the work[/list:o]
    The format should at least be a little complex to reimplement (although open sourced) because of layers, etc. Reusing a GIMP library would probably mean adding an unreasonable dependency to KDE: the GIMP library. As most mature programs (I just given some guesses here) The GIMP probably has a great part of it's functionality in it's libraries so adding a dependency to those libraries would almost mean that to have KDE one needs to have GIMP.

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Wednesday, August 25th 2004, 4:38pm

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...so adding a dependency to those libraries would almost mean that to have KDE one needs to have GIMP.


Not necessarily, only the respective image IO plugin would depend on the GIMP library.

If you are looking for a KDE image viewer with xc capabilities, look for Gwenview: http://gwenview.sourceforge.net/overview
I am pretty sure ti can also to animated GIFs

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Wednesday, August 25th 2004, 7:05pm

okay, but GIMP being the best 2D apps in Linux World, it is/should be installed on any computers.

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Wednesday, August 25th 2004, 11:37pm

Must have been some misunderstanding.
Juging by the thread's subject you were loocking for a KDE image viewer with certain capabilities.
Of course GIMP itself can handle its own format best :)
I don't know any distribution that is lacking a GIMP package, so you should have it available as well.

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Thursday, August 26th 2004, 10:22pm

you didn't understand... and your comment it's useless!

it's obvious for 4 xcf an image viewer has no interest; but if as me, you handle more than one hundred xcf (an average) you should understand it become a bit hard.

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Thursday, August 26th 2004, 10:34pm

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I suppose it's a devolping issue. I mean, handling .xcf's would need one of two things:
  1. Or the KDE team reimplemented all of the xcf's functionality
  2. Or they used some GIMP library to do the work[/list:o]
    The format should at least be a little complex to reimplement (although open sourced) because of layers, etc. Reusing a GIMP library would probably mean adding an unreasonable dependency to KDE: the GIMP library. As most mature programs (I just given some guesses here) The GIMP probably has a great part of it's functionality in it's libraries so adding a dependency to those libraries would almost mean that to have KDE one needs to have GIMP.
[list=1]

It seems KDE will get (basic?) support for XCF in the next version:
http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.4-features.html[/list]

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Thursday, August 26th 2004, 11:54pm

just a basic preview, yes. what d'you need yet?

Gimp provide a thumbnail preview in file selector, but it's a process again too slow when several files.

well, just watch xcf like jpg, png etc in kuickshow/konqueror is wanted



EDIT: oh good, it's finished! thanks

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Friday, August 27th 2004, 7:37pm

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you didn't understand... and your comment it's useless!

I don't get it.
First I post a link telling that Gwenview seems ti support XCF, but you answer that GIMP should be installed because it is so good.
I agree that GIMP is very likely the best program to handle XCF and then you complain it is to complex for just viewing several images.

I really would like to know why telling you about an image viewer that can handle XCF is a useless comment.

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Sunday, August 29th 2004, 12:34pm

indeed, you didn't get it and me too by the way :)

i thought you criticized "my" ask.

I have said it against m4ktub's post, because he said it would be really too difficult etc etc... against that i said: if it was for 3 xcf, it's obvious there is no interest.(just irony)

Precisely, GIMP being a "must have" in any distros, it should force to have the possibility to preview/view its format in any imageviewer like kuickshow or elses. (the most annoying, PSD is supported by several viewers)

For finish, i know it's a bit confusing, but you should understand i am obviously for this support.

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Sunday, August 29th 2004, 9:13pm

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indeed, you didn't get it and me too by the way :)

i thought you criticized "my" ask.

oh, ok :)

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Precisely, GIMP being a "must have" in any distros, it should force to have the possibility to preview/view its format in any imageviewer like kuickshow or elses. (the most annoying, PSD is supported by several viewers)

As a part of a KDE main package kuickshow is bound to KDE's release cylces.
Associated programs like Gwenview can be faster when possibilities arrive, e.g someone coding a format plugin for a new format.

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Monday, August 30th 2004, 11:23am

ah ok, excellent about Gwenview.

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Gwenview can load and save all image formats supported by KDE, but Gwenview can also browse GIMP files (*.xcf) thanks to the included QXCFI component developed by Lignum Computing.


In fact, i try to use lesser "external tools" when i'm using KDE, but here Gwenview is pretty cool and essential.

i'm going to try it


Thank you


EDIT: well, i tried it, not good yet, too slow on xcf. but it's already better than kuickshow