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personally i think they need an embedded movie viewer in KDE, something like kMplayer and the like.

oh yeah, whats the deal with kaboodle? is it a media player or just something to take up space?

kmplayer is in kdeextragear and therefore developed along with the rest of KDE now. Noatun and kaboodle both can use xinelib to play movies (success of this might depend on your distribution and OS however.)

Kaboodle is small, a single shot player that works nicely from the commandline, and embeddable, it's not just taking up space.

Hello friends,

I think the devs should seriously consider trashing the other video media players, concentrate on kmplayer and consider incorporating mplayer as their default video media player.

Mystilleef

From what I know this program just hit version 0.90 and supports more codecs than other movie players. I seriously do think multimedia support is lacking in kde's desktop. The fact seeing a movie trailer is still a hassle in kde is a problem that needs to be corrected, maybe mplayer is the solution.
~jon

Mplayer is better than Kaboodle, xmms is better than noatun, I don't know if these KDE programs was in develop now, but for now I'm using Kmaplayer and XmmsKDE for better integration wiht my desktop.

I think kmplayer and juk will greatly replace noatun and it's friends.

Having installed kmplayer a few days ago I finally have quicktime movie previews of the web (just in time for matrix). By the way Netscape plugins for Konqueror really sucks...

Noatun cannot be usefull since it has no usable playlist.
Nowadays a player should have advanced music library management such as the ones in itunes, real one, kazaa, and windows media player: sorting in tree by album, genre, period, artist, etc...
Basically it's automatic playlists based on id3 info.
This means that I don't have to sort my mp3 and spend years looking through my files to find my songs: I load my music directory and it is sorted automaticaly.

After searching for a long time they are three programs that have a future: Zinf, Yammi, Juk.
Xmms is cool but managing playlists is a thing of the past. It needs a new GUI.
Zinf doesn't use QT but it has a good music management system.(I won't go into details)
Yammi uses QT but really needs to be cleaned up and switched over to KDE. The music management is almost better then Zinf. It outputs to noatun or xmms and actually makes them usable. It is my current favorite.
Juk is clean and native to KDE. It has a great future. I know the back end is ready for advanced music management such as that of Yammi (the GUI will be implemented via vfolders I beleive). For right now it just gives a list of playlists.

by the way does anyone know what happened to xtunes/sumi did sumi become closemi?

To conclude:
KDE's multimedia future is in KMplayer and JuK. Both are under heavy dev so we should soon be saved...

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Original von ybouan


Noatun cannot be usefull since it has no usable playlist.

How many of them did you try?
Hayes?

Cheers,
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i have never, in my entire life of Linux usage, been able to get noatun or kaboodle to work with sound or video.

it could be my incompetence heheh

i find that compiling mplayer from source is the best way to do it, and it runs better than anything windows could produce, take, for example, the 1000x568 trailer for the Matrix: reloaded....

*drools...*

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Original von anda_skoa


How many of them did you try?
Hayes?

I wonder where have these extra playlists gone to? They used to be in kdeaddons, but not anymore..
Or then they just don't get compiled for some odd reason. Maybe they depend on that library for id3v2 tags? If so, it should be added to kde 3.1 requirements/optionals list..

-rzei

Getting KDE to work partially depends on your DISTRO and how sophisticated your DISTRO'S packagement structure and system is. I'v had not problem getting noatun to work. In fact, it works like a charm. It' works so well I prefer it over xmms. But my friends who use RH and Debian, have a herculian task just getting mplayer to work, forget about noatun or Kaboodle. They just gave up on it. When ever they come over, I intentionally fire up those apps just to make their blood boil. And I await.

Friend 1: So how did you get mplayer to work? I'm having problems getting to work. Can really view quicktime movies? Can you really view real player movies?
ME: Ah, I just did an 'emerge mplayer' and my package manager took care of everything, afterwhich, I could view quicktime, real, wma etc movies with no hassle.
Friend2: How about noatun, the damn thing would just not work.
ME: Bah, The same thing. After emerging KDE it worked out of the box. I only needed to configure it here and there and tweak it here and there and it's all good now.
Friend2: So what distro to you use?
ME: Gentoo
Friend 1: Dude, Gentoo sucks!!!!!

Yes, and the dialogue goes on...

Kaboodle as far as I'm concerned is useless, noatun and kscd in my opinion can rewritten into one app. I would have advocated for xmms over noatun, but really once you get noatun to work and install several other plugins, there is little difference between noatun and xmms.

My two cents.

Mystilleef