Do you like the actual KDE Controlcenter??? (vote)

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Thursday, July 15th 2004, 7:43pm

Do you like the actual KDE Controlcenter?
(KDE Controlcenter of 3.x versions)

I think that the actual KDE Controlcenter is very bad and needs a redesign (looking for KDE 4). The answers I created are not the best but I think the bad dialogs a dn the not so easy use are the most wanted changes.

With do you like I mean do you like it really. I know there are many options but I think for newer users it's not easy to find every option because so many options are waiting for you. I would see a lot easier dialogs in the future!

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "OhReally" (Jul 28th 2008, 12:26am)

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Norman

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Thursday, July 15th 2004, 7:58pm

I agree that it needs a facelifting. Recently I switched from GNOME to KDE and KDE is better in nearly every area - yet, the only thing that makes me crazy sometimes is searching for an option - e.g. I searched for a way to change the mouse cursor theme ( I Knew I had seen it before ) in the appearance section for several minutes and finally found it under hardware. Do I really setup hardware when I change the cursor theme ?

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damir

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Thursday, July 15th 2004, 8:01pm

i do not dislike it, but the grouping and the global design is too chaotic and needs a cleanup

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Thursday, July 15th 2004, 8:11pm

Not only a cleanup

For me the options and dialogs and the KDE Controlcenter needs a total redesign and not only a cleanup... I don't like the way to configure and to get to the dialogs. Look what Norman posted...

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damir

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Thursday, July 15th 2004, 8:19pm

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For me the options and dialogs and the KDE Controlcenter needs a total redesign and not only a cleanup... I don't like the way to configure and to get to the dialogs. Look what Norman posted...

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Original von Norman

I agree that it needs a facelifting. Recently I switched from GNOME to KDE and KDE is better in nearly every area - yet, the only thing that makes me crazy sometimes is searching for an option - e.g. I searched for a way to change the mouse cursor theme ( I Knew I had seen it before ) in the appearance section for several minutes and finally found it under hardware. Do I really setup hardware when I change the cursor theme ?

exactly this is what i mean with "chaotic grouping":
most of the options are on the wrong place ... maybe it's intended, so that new users first spend a lot of time to get used with all the panels ;-) :roll: :lol:

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Thursday, July 15th 2004, 8:23pm

grouping

First you go trough the tree and find your group (1), then your module (2) and then mostly your tab (3) and then your option (4). But often it's not the right group so back to (1) ... :twisted:

I like the Windows and Mac way and Gnome and RedHat way :wink:

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damir

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Thursday, July 15th 2004, 8:37pm

Re: grouping

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Original von zenok

First you go trough the tree and find your group (1), then your module (2) and then mostly your tab (3) and then your option (4). But often it's not the right group so back to (1) ... :twisted:

how true, how true :-)

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Original von zenok

I like the Windows and Mac way and Gnome and RedHat way :wink:

yea, especially the mac way is very logical ; in windows, some things you must search for ("hardware manager", "services"); redhat i dont know, but e.g. YaST2 is not bad designed (at least the one i tried in SuSE 7.1)

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m4ktub

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Friday, July 16th 2004, 1:21am

It could use a task oriented organization like Windows Control panel and have entries like "Configure Desktop", "Change mouse theme" instead of the Group/Item/Tab/Group/Option organization. It could also have that nice feature of giving relevance to the most used tasks or to those choosen as the most used.

I think this was already proposed at kde-look but can't check that now.

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anda_skoa

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Friday, July 16th 2004, 9:39am

I found the Search tab very helpful when looking for settings I had not changed before, thus didn't know where to look.

For example insert "cursor" into the search field

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Norman

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Friday, July 16th 2004, 2:19pm

Quoted

Original von anda_skoa

I found the Search tab very helpful when looking for settings I had not changed before, thus didn't know where to look.

For example insert "cursor" into the search field

Cheers,
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Actually thats the way I found it, but I did not want to believe that one has to search for how to change the cursor theme... So what should a user do - search for the most trivial things right from the beginning or should a user first try to find it for a certain time and when he finally gives up use the search function ? The search function should be a feature, but it is not the intended way of finding even the simplest option.

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Friday, July 16th 2004, 7:15pm

kcontrol3

What I can say that is under development is kcontrol3 but it's still an application and I would prefer the directory structure (creating this is possible for everyone at the moment because you can run the KDE CC modules without the CC):

http://www.avenheim.online.fr/kcontrol3/index.png
http://www.avenheim.online.fr/kcontrol3/appearance.png
http://www.avenheim.online.fr/kcontrol3/search.png
http://www.avenheim.online.fr/kcontrol3/kcm_font.png

Read first details here:
http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-usability&m=107758048305856&w=2

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seb

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Saturday, July 17th 2004, 9:52am

i quite happen to like the look of and feel of the current kcontrol.

http://www.sebruiz.net/
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Kenneth

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Saturday, July 17th 2004, 11:58pm

The current Control Center is far from perfect and there's plenty of room for improvement. However, I don't think that it is necessarily bad or unusable at this point. Kcontrol3 looks awesome though.

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stodge

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Monday, July 19th 2004, 12:30am

As with many KDE apps, there are too many options and it's too busy.

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Amoeba

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Monday, July 19th 2004, 8:23pm

I don't use the acutal "control center" interface but I do use the submenus. It's OK. I do not dislike it but I do not love it. It gets the job done for me.

Kcontrol3 looks awesome. But I could care less how awesome it looks. I am more concerned with functionality. Don't get me wrong, I dig eye candy, but some things are more important than others.

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CrashedAgain

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Wednesday, July 21st 2004, 4:51pm

I voted 'yes' but didn't really mean it....the only other choice is 'No' and I don't dislike it. There should have been a middle choice.
It isn't bad once you get used to it. They keep removing stuff from it..for instance you can no longer do X configurations or setup kdm to boot different session types.
It does have a useable search tab, tell the developers working on Khelpcenter to come have a look to see how it's done; Khelpcenter REALLY needs this.

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Infohawk

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Friday, July 23rd 2004, 2:47am

I voted no. There's nothing wrong with a lot of options but they're organized badly and at first I didn't always know what things did (though the question mark icon in kwin was helpful). The search feature is also very helpful.

http://www.avenheim.online.fr/kcontrol3/appearance.png looks very nice except there are inconsistencies in the "what do you want to do portion" (which I think is a good idea). For example, "screen saver settings" doesn't have a verb in front of it.

I'm also really happy there's going to be a meta-theming system. I think all other theming entries should be a child of the new uber-theme entry.

As others have said, certain things like mouse cursors simply should be moved around.

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misophist

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Sunday, July 25th 2004, 12:42am

some failures

Add cursor theme does not work. All files offered, including the installed files, are rejected.

Same for the add splash section. It just don't work and the previous method no longer works.

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Germ

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Saturday, August 21st 2004, 11:59pm

Maybe I am weird. I like it, but that could be because I'm used to it. I use the control center quite often.

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Sunday, August 22nd 2004, 11:58am

mh

I know that this vote is for now not the right way ... it should get transfered to a KDE research website with more options to get a summary abou the control center.

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