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Friday, April 4th 2003, 3:42am

kde+minimal distro

I am in process of developing a minimal distro from source code which only kde-required and reccommended programs as it's base. My goal is to develop a very streamlined distro with only KDE apps.

Sort of like a minimal test distro. absolutly no clutter. Anyone interested?

(I know, I know.... why not just get "XXX-Distro" and only install the basic files But where's the fun in that?!)

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Friday, April 4th 2003, 4:59am

Great start!

Its a very sane idea since most distros are packed with libraries and stuff that's pure overhead, especially if you're working in one desktop only all the time.
Ok, above philosophy aside :twisted: , how can I contribute to your effort?
How come I can never come up with something original as my signature?

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Friday, April 4th 2003, 6:15am

Since I'm just an end user so far, all I can do is get ISos when you have them, burn them, and be a tester. But I can also help with any website and graphic needs though, too.
"Chopsticks require a person to use 64 muscles and 30 articulate movements simultaneously, which also acts in developing brain potential."

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Friday, April 4th 2003, 8:43am

what's the difference with the morphix/kde project ???
the iso size is 340 Mo with kde 3.1.1, with the power of knoppix...
http://morphix.sourceforge.net/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=4

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Friday, April 4th 2003, 1:24pm

Have a look at MiniWoody:
http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=931

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Sunday, April 6th 2003, 8:49am

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Original von cyprien

what's the difference with the morphix/kde project ???
the iso size is 340 Mo with kde 3.1.1, with the power of knoppix...
http://morphix.sourceforge.net/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=4


If you read their FAQ, you'd know. It's supposed to be modularized. My question is, do we really need all thses distributions? If you've read that opinion article on Freshmeat that was announced on NewsForge, you'll know what I mean.
"Chopsticks require a person to use 64 muscles and 30 articulate movements simultaneously, which also acts in developing brain potential."

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Sunday, April 6th 2003, 2:28pm

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My question is, do we really need all thses distributions? If you've read that opinion article on Freshmeat that was announced on NewsForge, you'll know what I mean.


You mean the one ranting about "too much free software"?

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Monday, April 7th 2003, 3:01am

Yea, and I think that the author is right in most points. But that's just my opinion.
"Chopsticks require a person to use 64 muscles and 30 articulate movements simultaneously, which also acts in developing brain potential."

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Monday, April 7th 2003, 6:12am

Re: kde+minimal distro

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Original von mshelby

I am in process of developing a minimal distro from source code which only kde-required and reccommended programs as it's base. My goal is to develop a very streamlined distro with only KDE apps.

Sort of like a minimal test distro. absolutly no clutter. Anyone interested?

(I know, I know.... why not just get "XXX-Distro" and only install the basic files But where's the fun in that?!)


I really like your idea, unfortunately I don't have time to help. I would probably dual boot to such a distro and add only audio apps......
Maybe when the 2.5 kernel is released as stable (with alsa), audio apps become more stable, and I have more time......

Good luck,

Steve
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Monday, April 7th 2003, 11:22am

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Yea, and I think that the author is right in most points. But that's just my opinion.


Well, I, for my part, cannot agree with most of the author's points.

I think none of the "problems" he mentions are specific to Free Software.

Look at the Windows shareware sites. The same sort of programs in multiple flavors.

Actually Free Software has an advantage here. Forking lets you start at a much later state of development. In non-free development you have to start all from the beginning if you are not satisfied with current solutions.

Starting from scratch is your only option, you cannot opt to improve another one's product.

For my point fo view there is much more cooperations among Free Software developers than among closed source developers.

Some of the things the author wrote suggest that he has only very shallow understanding of software development.

For example when he disapproves re-writing your own program.
Sometimes you end up in a dead-end: the code is no longer extensible, maintaining is done by applying hacks all over the code.
The only way you get out of this is restarting with a better design.
Only code from the old version is lost, the developers take all their knowledge about good and bad parts with them into the new version.

As for your question, wether we need all those distributions:
well, maybe not all of them, but we should keep in mind that there is no "size fits all" thing in software either.

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Saturday, April 12th 2003, 2:35am

have to wait a bit....

I am glad that my idea is taken to have some merit! I am going on a short vacation, then I will wrap up my system and post a link! -mark