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Friday, October 5th 2007, 12:24am

Distro of choice for KDE 4?

openSUSE? Kubuntu? PCLinuxOS? Other?

I currently use Kubuntu. I switched from XP a few months ago to Ubuntu, but GNOME wasn't a good fit. Now I'm on the KDE bandwagon waiting for the next generation to arrive. What distribution will come out the strongest upon release?


Thursday, October 11th 2007, 12:37pm

How about PC-BSD?

The FreeBSD based distros tend to have far tighter KDE integration than the Linuxes do.


Thursday, October 11th 2007, 2:44pm

RE: Distro of choice for KDE 4?

Kubuntu will most likely be the first big one to adopt it. If you want bleeding edge, gentoo or arch linux would be your best bet, but those are quite different than kubuntu. I haven't much experience with the BSD's, so I can't comment on how quickly the packages will become available. Both Gentoo and arch have rapid release cycles. Arch usually has packages made up within 24 hours of release.


Saturday, October 27th 2007, 6:02am

I totally prefer openSUSE, and think you should support it and give it a shot.

Many developers form Novell develop KDE



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Tuesday, November 13th 2007, 7:49am

I too use and will use openSUSE as I find it's the best for me. :)



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Tuesday, November 13th 2007, 6:50pm

I don't think there is a "distro of choice for KDE 4". Most (if not all) distro's support KDE, even if they don't have it installed by default.

The choice of distro is up to the individual.

Anyway, just use Gentoo. ;-)
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Monday, November 19th 2007, 4:50pm

I'd say go with gentoo, just because (once you get it and X and layman installed) it is very very easy to install the latest svn, not to mention the the large speed boost from compiling the snapshot, X, and everything else yourself.


Tuesday, December 18th 2007, 10:53pm


I've run Linux exclusively for 10 years, and have been through all the buggy and half-baked distros like Mandrake, RedHat and OpenSuse. With Suse I spent fully 40% of my time troubleshooting stupid bugs which never should have made their way into the distro. Mandrake was beyond repair.

I've been happy with Debian for 3 years because it is stable, and the apt package management system is the best in the world.



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Wednesday, December 19th 2007, 5:04pm

For me, Debian is also the distro of choice. Suse = rpm hell, gentoo = install hell and the same was true for Debian until recently. Having said that, Kubuntu is ok and as soon as it breaks you will think that Debian is the one to go for ;)

PS.: Debian comes in three different flavours - stable (Etch) for those who want things to work, unstable (Lenny) for those closer to the edge and experimental for the bleeding edge variety. The latest and greatest, however, is always to install straight from svn.
running on Debian Etch

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Wednesday, December 19th 2007, 5:49pm

Ya, with Gentoo you'll spend most of your life compiling, for no discernible increase in performance.

I just tried Kubuntu, but its K went all squirrelly on me. Back to good ole solid Debian.

It's been so long since I'd installed Debian though (since I'd kept updated) that I've just found it default puts in Gnome! What's up with that? Gnome is too simplistic, and is hardly useful for power users. Had to manually tear out Gnome and put in K.


Wednesday, December 19th 2007, 7:17pm


It's been so long since I'd installed Debian though (since I'd kept updated) that I've just found it default puts in Gnome! What's up with that? Gnome is too simplistic, and is hardly useful for power users. Had to manually tear out Gnome and put in K.

Another way to do it is to choose "Standard System" when prompted for what software to install near the end of the Debian install. Then when you boot into Debian you'll get just a command line interface. From there you can type in:

apt-get update
aptitude install kdebase kdm x-window-system-core

which will give you a basic KDE system.


Wednesday, December 19th 2007, 8:01pm

OK thanks Jeff.

Why did they take away the detailed choices from the menu? Ya, this makes it simpler for n00bs... are they the only ones who count?


Wednesday, December 19th 2007, 10:33pm

RE: Distro of choice for KDE 4?

And I would name ArchLinux. Apart from being a great distro (I don't compare it to OpenSuSE or Mandriva, but after trying Slackware, Gentoo or Debian I found Arch to be amazing. That's just my opinion anyway, so I don't want to cause any flame here although I'm ready to explain my point of view) it also has a great project - KDEmod
It actually features all the greatest customizations for KDE from all the distros. First, it has packages like kde-multimedia divided into singular applications like kde-multimedia-noatun, kde-multimedia-juk, etc. Just like gentoo, if I am not mistaken. That's really handy, because I personally don't really need all those default apps. The other thing is, for example the SuSE's kickoff menu. Looks nice, although I didn't think it to be more efficient than the default one apart from having an integrated beagle without all those GNOME dependencies.
The default theme differs greatly here - it is based on Domino widgets and Tango icons. A weird mix of Vista, Mac OS and Ubuntu, but anyway it's better than the default KDE 3.5. And there are many more nice customizations which make KDEmod a great stuff. That actually made me switch to KDE (I used to be a GNOME user). So, personally I am waiting for KDEmod's customizations for KDE4, although at first there would only package splitting which is however really nice.


Wednesday, December 19th 2007, 11:08pm

I think we're all too tired for flamewars, BlackCrease.

KDEMod does look good. I don't understand why the default KDE style isn't sharper and more classy like that. I wish I knew what style they use. And the name of that Mac-like dock app at the bottom. Might like to graft them into mine.


Thursday, December 20th 2007, 1:07am

Don't understand what app do you mean. It's just the kicker, isn't it?


Thursday, December 20th 2007, 1:16am

In some of the screenshots it looks like it has a Dock app just like OS X.


Thursday, December 20th 2007, 3:24pm

It's made through basic Control Center. Look into Desktop->Panels->Position (probably it's a bit different, because I use russian translation and don't know the exact english names). There you can adjust the length of panel and make it stay in center. And the taskbar should be simply drag'n'dropped to the top. If I am not mistaken


Thursday, December 20th 2007, 4:23pm

Not the same thing. I always set my panel at the top. But what's in the screenshots holds only applications, just like Dock in OS X.

I'll look around as I have time. Your English is excellent, BTW.


Thursday, December 20th 2007, 6:14pm

I understood what you mean: this dock doesn't really implement the Mac OS X's functionality. I mean, those are just icons which don't display the status for the apps. So you can just create an additional panel on the top, unlock the panel on the bottom, move the taskbar applet to the top and there you go.
P.S.: Thanks)